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 General Questions:Once Saved Always Saved?
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| This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 1 John 1:5-6
According to scriptures most Christians walk in darkness and are unbelievers because they don't do what Jesus told them to do. And God rejected all the seven churches in the book of Revelations because they didn't heed the voice of the Spirit. Saul lost his life and kingdom because of rebellion and disobedience and so why should others who are called by God's name for God's word is true and unchanging though every man be a liar: And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. "And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; "they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen. Mark 16:15-20 The rejection of light doesn’t give more light but rather darkness. Any Christian who walks away from the light will walk into darkness and He will find the words of Jesus true: "For whoever has, to him more will be given; but whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him." Mark 4:25 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." John 3:36 "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. "If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:4-6 SO WHAT HAPPENS TO UNBELIEVERS EVEN IF THEY ARE CHRISTIANS? They are destroyed or become possessed with demons: "When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. "Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. "Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation." Matthew 12:43-45 But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; Jude 1:5 "Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. "And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. "Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. "I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works. Revelations 2:20-23 You cannot add or remove to the word of God without having the judgments of God come upon you. Many Christians are living in poverty, lack, and sickness because of the judgments of God upon them, not His blessings. They have ignored the word of God that states: For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world. 1 Corinthians 11:30-32 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play." Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come. 1 Corinthians 10:1-6 God has always judged and destroyed people, even His own. And He will continue to do so! The scriptures warn us that all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition. So why does anybody thing he or she will not be destroyed by God for doing stupid things as our fathers had done? God’s word is unchanging: For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know Him who said, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. And again, "The LORD will judge His people." It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Hebrews 10:26-31 |
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| Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:46:14 PM guest | |
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I just have to say this one thing here. There is no such thing as an "unbelieving christian". If one is a CHRISTian they DO believe in God and his word and are trying to do what is right. We all fall short in doing the total will of God but that doesn't mean we are unbelievers. Unbelievers don't believe in God or they don't believe all of his word, and therefore shy away from following his comamands. |
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| Friday, February 14, 2003 11:32:53 AM groadsmom | ||
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I just have to say this one thing here. There is no such thing as an "unbelieving christian". If one is a CHRISTian they DO believe in God and his word and are trying to do what is right. We all fall short in doing the total will of God but that doesn't mean we are unbelievers. Unbelievers don't believe in God or they don't believe all of his word, and therefore shy away from following his comamands. |
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| Friday, February 14, 2003 11:32:40 AM groadsmom | ||
