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        Falling from salvation.
My g/f says that u can lose salvation. I go to a baptist church and we were "taught" to believe that once your saved you are always saved (even though i was never taught/listened where to back this up in the bible @.) And that is my question. In what chap/verses does it say that once you are saved that you are always saved? 
Thursday, February 15, 2001 8:02:57 PM   guest
      re:Falling from salvation.   
[Hebrews 10:12] But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on he right hand of God;

I am also Baptist and I recently asked my Pastors Wife the same question. She told me this verse 
Wednesday, February 28, 2001 6:25:04 PM m parham
      re:Falling from salvation.   
Hello guest,

Surprisingly, one of our prayer warriors just asked me that question via email a short while ago. I'll enclose my reply and some links for you.

This is one of the toughest question and until now, I
am still struggling with this issue.

Okay, what I believe. I believe that we are saved
through grace and through the finished work of the

[Romans 10:9-10]
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the
Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God
hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto
righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made
unto salvation.

All we need to do is confess and believe and the bible
says that through this, we will be saved.

Some of us may still be struggling with our sin once
we are saved and I believe that as we continue our
walk with God, we do not need to revert back to having
to work for our salvation. It is a free gift and we
cannot depend on anything but the finished work of the

[Galatians 3:1-3]
1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that
ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus
Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the
Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are
ye now made perfect by the flesh?

We are to continue in the Spirit and not through our
flesh. Not trying to work out our salvation with our

However, having said that, many people receive Christ
and are saved but they are just delivered out of their
Egypt. God wants us to move on to the promised land.
Moses delivered the people from Egypt but Joshua took
them into the promised land. Many people do not want
to go on with the Word and with God and take hold of
the promises of God and that is not what God intends
for us in our lives.

[Philippians 2:12-16]
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed,
not as in my presence only, but now much more in my
absence, work out your own salvation with fear and
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will
and to do of his good pleasure.
14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons
of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and
perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the
16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may
rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in
vain, neither laboured in vain.

We are not to take our salvation for granted and live
like sons of God. We might have danger of falling into
apostasy and of rejecting the Son.

[1 Timothy 4:1-2]
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the
latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving
heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their
conscience seared with a hot iron;

So, it is possible to depart from the faith and to go
away from God. But people who apostasize are people
who have their conscience seared with a hot iron. They
are no longer open to God or the things of God. It is
possible for people to back-slide and yet be open and
come back to God. That is not apostasy and they do not
lose their salvation. Apostasy is departing from the
faith and hardening our hearts until we no longer
desire or become open to God.

This is my perspective. I am not an expert on this, so
don't take my word for it. Study the scriptures and
ask God for revelation.

The following is an interesting article by Graham Pockett: 
Saturday, February 17, 2001 2:43:31 AM waihun
      re:Falling from salvation.   
[Romans 10:9,10]That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth, the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.[Verse 10]
For with the heart man believe unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
[John 3:16]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that (who soever) believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. So there you have it. The word is God is true. It doesn't matter what religion you are, the bible does not specify this. It only says that we must confess with our mouth and believe with thine heart, that God is who he says he is. We are saved.In John 3;16, says (who soever)not giving any type of qualifications, or stating that you have to meet a certain criteria. Once we recieved Christ in our hearts he will remain their until our parting from this world. Be encourage and Know that we are saved by Grace! God Bless You! 
Friday, February 16, 2001 4:19:36 PM guest
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