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        Seeking God's Will - Confused
 
 
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:47:49 AM   suzistar
 
      re:Seeking God's Will - Confused   
Hello sister "Suzistar",

First of all, a couple of quick observations...

1. You are definitely under demonic attack

2. In my experience, women can make the best counsellers, and the worst...I am not surprised by your assessment of her abilities. It usually goes extremely well with a sensitive mature woman, but extermely poorly with someone who is jaded.

3. Satan's #1 goal is to destroy families and potential families and marriages.

4. Your anxiety and fear of rejection is normal, but not of God. Fear is not Godly and you need to pray for deliverance from it.

5. Depression is rage turned inward, and again, you must pray to deal with that rage. Both outrage and enrage forms can turn on you and leave you depressed. Pray for JOY, PEACE and STRENGTH! (Psalm 28:7)

You have been brave and faithful to bring this all out. God bless you, and remember - pray for me too! My life/family/marriage is also under Satan's attack and I too am believing in deliverance.

Father in Heaven,
I stand in agreement with my sister here Lord, and ask that you grant her deliverance from the attacks of the enemy. I ask You, Father, to give her strength to persevere and fill her heart with Joy and Peace while you deliver her, dear Lord.

I plead the Blood of Jesus over her and her husband to be and ask you to send the Comforter to be in their midst and restore them oh God.

I pray this in Jesus Name,

Amen

from Ward, your brother in Christ. 
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:13:40 PM wardpike
 
      re:Seeking God's Will - Confused   
I finally went to bed that night. Just before I went to sleep, I was reading the Bible - I have a reading plan that I follow. The chapter that was scheduled for me to read had a verse about when going to war, that the man who is engaged should return to the woman, or he might die in battle and another man marry her. My jaw dropped. In my opinion, it was God and He was right there confirming everything.

Ever since that day, my guy has been pulling away from me. I'm so scared, because my guy came to a conclusion to break up with me a month ago based on what the counselor said. He called that week after to see how I was doing. I called him a few days later to see how he was doing. He said he was really busy with work and the house, and mentioned that he hasn't been eating much. With him, I know that's a sure sign he's really upset.

I've been wrecked over this whole thing. I love my guy so much and I know he loves me. I feel like God wants us apart for a while so that He can work on the things that would be harmful to a marriage. I still feel like God is showing me that this is going to be my husband, that I have to be patient and wait for God to bring him back.

I know that I have to trust that if it is God that He will speak to my guy and bring him back when the time is right. I just don't know what to do now. I guess I shouldn't be calling or emailing - so I really haven't. I only phoned him twice since the breakup.
He has been distant and doesn't really call me anymore. I talked to the guy's mom. She's always been like a 2nd mom to me. She told me she's been praying and feels like God still wants us to be together, and that my guy will come back in a few months. My guy doesn't really talk to her much, but she told me she knows he's hurt over our breakup and absolutely still loves me. Now he is upset that i have been talking to my mom, so i had to stop talking to her.

I'm so confused.
Any advice? Please pray - this is really tough.
thanks. 
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:49:40 AM suzistar
 
      re:Seeking God's Will - Confused   
I had seen this counselor on my own a month before that last session, in order to start my own treatment for anxiety/depression. During the session, she implied that she thought my guy was using me for my money, and that he didn't really want to be with me, that he was not capable of having an "adult" relationship. She told me not to tell my guy these things, but to go home and try to write 4 statements about why I feel he actually does want to be with me. I fought with what she said for a month before our last session, and it made the situation with my guy a lot worse, b/c I reacted to his behavior based on what she said to me about him.

After this all came together in my head, I had a great sense of peace in my heart, and I mean the peace that passes understanding. I really felt like this lady is deceived. She just doesn't know what's going on here. I KNOW this relationship was ordained by God - He told us both (and other people) that we were to marry. I know that my guy & I love each other very very much.

There were about half a dozen phone calls between us on that day. Both of us were miserable and crying all day. I mean, this is not the behavior that two people display when they don't want to be together. 
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:49:34 AM suzistar
 
      re:Seeking God's Will - Confused   
After all of that, my guy & I left the session with great angst in our hearts. He felt demolished, b/c she had said he would never be what I need. I felt destroyed b/c she said that I can't be in a relationship and get healed at the same time. Worst of all, my guy began considering breaking up b/c of what this woman said, only because he fears that he is hurting me by being with me. (Not true btw - he has helped me to heal).

We had taken two cars to the counselors b/c my guy was sposed to stay with his family an extra day to go to Cedar Point that day. After about an hour of holding hands, both of us crying and holding each other while trying to figure things out, we decided to earnestly pray about the situation over that weekend.

I had an hour and a half to think about things on the drive home. My guy called me a few times while I was driving, b/c he was concerned about me. I cried more than I think I've ever cried. Suddenly, it hit me - and I mean it "clicked" in my head what was going on. 
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:49:08 AM suzistar
 
      re:Seeking God's Will - Confused   
My guy and his roommate (a guy - his BF from HS) were still a half hour away from me, but were in process of building a house close to my new apartment (which is why I chose that location). My guy was working very early (5am every day) which meant that he was going to bed by 8:30 and we still didn't get to see each other a lot. If we did he was always tired when I talked to or saw him. The strain of our long distance relationship had taken its toll and both of us were down to our last straws.

I have found out that I have a mix of anxiety/depression that I'm trying to work on (meds & therapy) - and I am beginning to see some good results. But it was destroying our relationship - I freaked out about the fact that I couldn't see my guy on a regular basis - I needed God to help me get a handle on it.

In addition to all of the mess above (which has worn us both out), we had a pre-marital counseling session with this lady on mid-August who told us that our relationship is over and that we will never work together. Who is she to say that, when God is the one who told us to be together? It seemed over the top when neither one of us had even mentioned a desire to break up. She almost got angry with us when we argued with her about it. It didn't seem professional at all. She went as far to say that this relationship was not authored by God - which totally goes against what my guy & I both heard from God and have had plenty of confirmation. I told her that she didn't know us well enough to say that we wouldn't work out, to which she retorted angrily - "well I know people". She proceeded to imply that my guy was not committed to this relationship. Needless to say, the session ended in disaster. 
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:48:40 AM suzistar
 
      re:Seeking God's Will - Confused   
Around Christmas '03, this family member and my guy started talking to me about postponing the wedding. We argued about it for months. We began seeing a Christian counselor as a pre-requisite (by the pastor who would marry us). She didn't really seem to offer us much help.
In fact, she was a referral to us by my guy's family member. Finally, by March of '04, after much prayer, I agreed that we had issues to work out individually in order to make a marriage work. (Neither of us believe in divorce.) We postponed the wedding and continued our long distance relationship. Due to the amount of emotional stress and tension, there were a lot of hurts and arguments - and my guy didn't talk much on the phone, but still we loved each other and wanted to try.

I started praying about what God wanted me to do. I felt like God was going to do something in April. At the end of April, God got me an interview where my guy lives. I prayed that if God wanted me with my guy, then to make it happen, and if not to close that door. I was the only candidate and resume considered for the position and was hired. I got a promotion in title and pay. I also prayed (due to poor credit) that God would help me to obtain an apartment if he wanted me to be with my guy - and He did. I was approved on the spot (credit was no prob) and didn't even have to pay a security deposit - unheard of these days. My job and boss turned out to be a pefect fit - it seemed like I was on my way to what God had promised. 
Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:48:12 AM suzistar
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